im not even an artist and these prices are hurting my feelings
This is what I have to dig through every time I look for new jobs to apply for.
For non-artists, let’s give you a little perspective.
For me, an illustration takes a bare minimum of 6 hours. Mind you, that’s JUST the drawing part. Not the research, or the communications, or gathering information. Just drawing.
That’s if it’s a simple illustration.
My art deco or more detailed stuff can take 20+ hours each.
Even simple, cartoony things still take at least 3 hours.
Let’s go with the second one. 2 illustrations for $25. Figuring 6 hours each. 12 hours total, for JUST the drawings. That’s approximately $2.08/hour.
Asking these prices is an insult. But what’s even more hurtful is there are people out there that will take these jobs. Which only encourages rates like this to be acceptable. And there are people who will try to say these are just what you have to do to get started.
I believed that. So my first coloring gigs were just $10/page. The day someone offered me $25/page for just flatting work, I realized just how wrong I’d been. I’m still not making the rates I’d like, but now I refuse anything below $25/page. Because there is value in my time.
In any standardized industry, even ones that pay piece rate over hourly, these numbers are criminal.
Do your fellow artists a favor. Never accept jobs like these. There are others that pay legitimate rates. Or at least closer to legitimate.
Such baby bullshit. Don’t even get out of bed for these rates.
If you are an artist who wants to make money off their art, I highly suggest you buy The Graphic Artist’s Guild Handbook. It goes in depth about copyright issues and even contains contract and model release templates. The 2013 book *I believe* states the average professional charges $72 an hour. This article calculated that to make a 40k annual salary you would need to charge about $60 per hour.
After graduating from Art Center in 2012, I think I asked for somewhere between $35-45 an hour and got laughed at by multiple big name clients, which was infuriating, sadly expected, and terrifying with over $100K worth of student loans staring me in the face. If they tell you it will be “great exposure” that’s a red flag. Ask yourself how their exposure can compare to your Tumblr, Twitter, Instagram, Pinterest, Flickr and Facebook pages combined?
And when you do get a decent paying gig, PROTECT YOURSELF. You have the right to negotiate and revise a contract. Do not start a job until you have a contract signed. If they don’t provide you with one, MAKE ONE. And make sure you have your bases covered. You can specify in a contract that maybe two revisions are included in your cost, and if they ask you to revise the piece more than twice, they will have to pay extra. In terms of payment schedule, I usually do the 50/50 Method (50% before, 50% after) or the 3/3/3 Method (1/3 before, 1/3 in the middle, 1/3 after all work has been received). Both of those are pretty standard in the industry, as they guarantee you will get compensated for your time, even if the job goes bad.
Remember you have a skill, and you have spent time honing that skill and you deserve to be adequately paid for that time and effort. You will have clients dismiss you because, honest to God they think, “Well, I could do that if I wanted. Hell, my five year old does it now.” No they can’t, because they didn’t, they don’t, they won’t and they probably never will. And good luck hiring a five year old. They can’t keep a fucking deadline.
And in a last ditch effort they’ll say, “But that drawing only took you an hour!” Son, that drawing took me 20. fucking. years.
10 Dollars for 1 minute of animation. Oh my god my heart. It took my team 6 months and a team of 12 to make a 4 minute short.
I second this book! I’ve had it for several years now, and it’s been a HUGE help in my work as a freelance artist. It gives great advice on what to charge for different areas of art!
Please remember. Your art is worth a respectable payment! Accepting ridiculously low prices actually hurts the arts/illustration/animation communities because it makes employers believe they can employ people without offering decent pay.
Check the internet if you need help figuring out what you should be charging for your commissions. Invest in the books that will inform you professionally, and put your foot down if you think someone is trying to cheat you out of your time and hard work.
You have a right to refuse a job, and/or request decent payment. If your employer denies a you decent pay, well then they’re probably not a very good employer.
Do not undersell your skills. it is bad for the art community and you are worth more then that.
so i combined derse and prospit together with painttoolsai using the luminosity feature and…………
look at it…….
that’s so…. pretty… omg let’s all dream here pls
I’ve lived here all my life.
And then everyone lived on Derspit, the end.
headcanon time!: derspit is what happens when one person tries to play Sburb/etc by his or her self. Either through two computers running the program at the same time or through bizarre cheating methods.
It’s an attempt by the game to create both moons despite there being only one bed, forcing the player to go through weird glitchy mixtures of events from both areas.
The Derspitiatites (dersite+prospitian= Ders-pit-ti-a-tites) are at war with themselves and are extremely glitchy and volatile, expressing both Heroic and Just traits. They both wish for the game to be continued and for the game to be lost, and are neither helpful nor harmful towards the player. They are so volatile that they become neutral by default.
It is extremely difficult, if not impossible to win the game, due to the black and white king being the same character. The reckoning, along with all other moon-based events, must be started by the PLAYER in order for them to get farther into the game.
heres a Derspitiatite arch/antiagent (cheap jack edit) to make reading all that worth your while a bit
“…are at war with themselves and are extremely glitchy and volatile”
so baSICALLY THE TRICKSTERS
BE A THING
CAN THIS BE WHERE THE TRICKSTERS DREAM OMFG
OH MAN EVEN THE COLOUR SCHEME WORKS FOR TRICKSTERS
HEADCANON ACCEPTED OH MY GOD
That would be terrifying for the brief few moments before tidal forces began tearing the Earth asunder.
It would also be terrifying during that the whole tidal forces thing.
(My husband and I are really into science and have passed this love into our eight year old daughter. We try not to ‘baby’ the explanations we give her and provide honest explanations to the numerous questions she has. One day, when we pick her up from school, she is upset and the teacher is asking to speak to us.)
Teacher: “I need you to speak to your daughter about being rude and correcting me in front of the other children!”
Me: “What? What happened?”
Teacher: “I was explaining how rainbows are made and she corrected me in front if the class.”
Husband: “[Daughter], is this true? What happened?”
Daughter: “Well, [Teacher] was telling the class about how rainbows are made and he told them the water reflected the light. I put up my hand and asked him if he meant refracted as that’s what really happens.”
Husband: “[Teacher], is this what happened?”
Teacher: “Yes. She really shouldn’t correct me. It confuses the other children.”
Me: “Was she right, though?”
Teacher: “She will confuse the other children!”
Me: “…but was she right?”
Teacher: “Well, yes, but children her age are too young to understand refraction, so we keep it simple by saying reflection as they know what that is.”
Husband: “That’s wrong, though. [Daughter] understands the difference and if you took the time to explain so would the other children.” *turns to Daughter* “Well done for understanding what we taught you and applying your knowledge. *high fives Daughter*
Me: “I think we’re done here.”
Teacher: *as we’re leaving* “She’ll confuse the other children!”Read more funny stories at NotAlwaysRight.com!:
(It is the end of the year in my AP US history class and we are writing a research paper. After having taken the final, we’re messing around with the research paper and pretending (badly) that we’re doing work.)
Partner #1: *jokingly* “We could just copy one paper and change some of the words.”
Me: “No, no, even better: copy the paper, but change every word using the Microsoft synonym option.”
Partner #2: “Oh, my god.”
(We laugh for a little bit, but then the teacher wanders over again and we get back to pretending to work. A few minutes later, Partner #1 starts giggling.)
Partner #1: “I posted a document to Google Drive.”
Partner #2: “What is it?”
Partner #1: “Guess.”
Me: “You didn’t.”
(I open it. He did. We start reading some of it aloud randomly.)
Partner #2: “Cutting-edge 1970, collective Salvador Allende recognized the chief self-governing collective administration cutting-edge the biosphere.”
Me: “Counting the Vietnam Combat besides the elongated-vertical Taciturn Confrontation through Soviet Blending.”
(We’re all losing it at this point. It is so ridiculous. Partner #1 is barely keeping it together and Partner #2 has his head in his hands.)
Me: “It sounds like a Romney speech.”
(To this day, my favorite line is ‘Pinochet fixed not certainly legitimately announce his command through several dogmatic dogma.’)Read more funny stories at NotAlwaysRight.com!:
Hell. Fucking. Yes. To celebrate the launch of my Detective Pony blog, I’m giving away some hand-sewn Dirk Strider goodies. You know you want these fuckers in your house. And I know I want people to reblog this post so my Detective Pony project gains visibility. Win/win.
Let’s put the rules right up here at the top:
1. I’m giving away the two hand-sewn fleece plushes in the above picture.
2. Likes and reblogs count as one entry each. (Reblog as text if you can, so the post doesn’t get cut off.)
3. If you win, you’ll need to give me your address; I’ll pay for shipping.
4. There will be two winners chosen randomly. The first will get to choose between the two plushes, and the second winner will get whichever is left over. You’ll need to have your ask box open, and to respond within 48 hours.
5. Giveaway ends in three weeks, on September 7th.
6. You don’t need to be following me, or even care who the hell I am. But since I am doing this to promote my Detective Pony project, I’d appreciate it if you gave my blog a quick look. If you click here, you can read all the pages I’ve posted so far in chronological order. Maybe you’ll like it.
Now, a little bit of info about what exactly this blog/project is about in case you don’t know. Remember the vandalized book that Dirk gave Jane for her birthday? Have you ever wanted to read the whole thing? No? Too bad!
I wrote Strider edits for the entire 90+ page book, edited them onto scans of the actual pages, and now I’m posting the whole thing on Tumblr, uploading one or two pages every day.
That’s really all there is to it. If you think you’d be interested in following me to watch this beautiful train wreck unfold, awesome. And if you just want to like this post for a chance at the plushes and have no desire to read my equine nonsense, that’s cool too. And remember: “[Y]ou don’t have to ride a pony to love them. And you certainly don’t need a pony to be a Pony Pal.” -accomplished author and pansophical haruspex Jeanne Betancourt
Heck yes am I reblogging this as text. I didn’t even know you could change those things. I learned something new!
Also if you happen to be reading this and don’t follow detective-pony then you should repent and change your ways immediately. Seriously you are missing out.
Hello, I’m gonna be a butt in return, but the problem here is that you’ve chosen to compare Dreamside, a magical anime RPG world full of bunny people named after vegetables, to real life
There’s also the mistake of applying the same cultural values that the modern world is accustomed to those of Dreamside.
Modern culture tends to accept any advance or innovation in technology readily and often without question and so our technology progresses rapidly aid tremendously by things such as mass production and strict record keeping. But other cultures, such as the Amish, don’t progress much at all in terms of technology, because they don’t see value in such progression, and consider much of technology (though not all) immoral.
Consider also that Human civilization has never faced an apocalypse. As Anon stated, we’ve had 10,000 years of more or less unimpeded growth. However Dreamside faces the threat of the Nightmare Knight cyclically. Every 5,000 years the Nightmare Knight comes back and potentially causes severe damage to the world and civilization of Dreamside. We don’t know how much history gets lots (nor how scrupulously it was kept in the first place), but apparently the fact that he came back every 5000 years had been lost to history and was only known by immortal beings. Who knows how much damage he causes every time? (I think we’re actually beginning to get a glimpse of his after effects currently in the comic)
I mean, think about it. Does the average person know how or have the resources to build an internal combustion engine? A solar panel, or microchip? Further, what if the knowledge of how to build such technology had been lost forever? How long would it take for humanity to learn how to build such things (and the things that build the tools to build such things) anew?
So, a culture that’s not super focused on making the next big thing, and the potentially drastic setback that is the Nightmare Knight’s return.
500,000 years doesn’t seem that unreasonable.
Besides, maybe bunny people just aren’t as smart on average as primate people? Or maybe they are less likely to produce as many geniuses than we are?
Or hell, maybe they just live in a much smaller world with a much smaller population so advances don’t happen nearly as rapidly.
Every minute or so I think on this idea I come up with another possible solution. Essentially GG already said it. Dreamside ≠ Real Life. They are just far too different to expect them to be the same.
1: The flash page starts by detailing Dave’s entry to the game (so, a flashback) in which Dave tries to grab the egg item before it hatches, so his sprite has to stop him from doing so before it breaks and lets him into the session. Bro has to cut the descending meteor in half to buy a little time too.
2: Jack Noir lays waste to the armies of Prospit and Derse, cause he is a bloodthirsty motherfucker. WV is miraculously unharmed.
3: On the meteor with John, all the babbies are teleported onto meteors to be flung at Skaia, which will teleport them en route to Earth on the respective time periods they will end up in when they are “born”.
4: Clubs Deuce gives Jack Noir the White King’s Scepter, which allows him to start the Reckoning, which sends the aforementioned babbies on their way.
5: Diamonds Droog uses the Meow code from Rose’s diary with ectoslime from Halley to make Bec. AR watches on in terror.
6: Jack Noir fucks up Prospit, including unchaining it’s moon, sending it hurtling towards Skaia.
7: Bro and Jack Noir have a sweet sword duel on a giant record. Bro’s sword gets stuck in the disc, scratching it.
8: Pointless Squiddles interlude.
9: Jade shakes John’s dreamself, trying to awaken it before it is destroyed on impact with Skaia. She fails, and instead throws it to safety, though tat the cost of her own dreamself. This causes her Dreambot to explode.
And that’s about it, there are some other things that happen that are either inconsequential or quickly elaborated upon later. I hope this was more helpful than the LAST time I described that entire flash in detail.
4. I had thought that it was WV that gave Jack the White King’s Scepter in an intense gesture of “Please don’t kill me!” He had just been leading an uprising against the Black King after all… Oh.
Maybe when I first watched it I somehow got BK and WK confused? Or maybed just their scepters and I never realized it the several times I’ve watched it since.
Yeah it wouldn’t make sense for WV to ever have WK’s scepter. It would have to be Clubs Deuce.